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Martin's avatar

In what ways have you attempted to be progressive in your thinking?

I don't like this question, but think the intent is "are there any apparent values in "progressive" theology?"

The answer is yes, because it is a mixture of good and evil- the evil often taking over in the end for being a mix it undermines the good and true.

However if you have the mix of good and evil then the good can also shine a light on the evil and it can be destroyed, if you use the light of God's Word to enhance and prove all things. (John 1:4-6)

My parents were Quakers and one of their main beliefs is “There is that of God in every Man”.

They claim that this is what Jesus meant in Luke 17:20-21:

"And when he (Jesus) was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

However, every modern translation of this verse, reads it as "the kingdom of God is in your midst".

It was Christ who was in their midst, and he was the representative of God’s Kingdom. This verse is telling us that the Pharisees could not, or would not, see Jesus as representing God, or God's Kingdom.

While prior to the 1970’s the Quakers were very strict and biblical, from the 70’s onward they started to accept almost anybody into their congregation as they felt “There is that of God in every Man”.

While their acceptance of all people as having some value is correct, it also means that they accepted all the errors of their ways of life too, including homosexuality and adultery etc. Which was a grave error.

Many left the Quakers as they deteriorated and now, in Australia at least, they would not be recognizable to any Quaker from pre 1970's.

I was never a Quaker, but I appreciated their respect of all people (for that is exactly what the story of the Good Samaritan is about), but I also thought it was very stupid to accept anyone and their sins just because of this one unscriptural perspective, which has undermined the faith of many and is now a major belief of so called 'progressives'.

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Dennis T.'s avatar

“Have you ever been tempted to renounce your faith in Christ?”

No, but I have renounced my adherence to the dogma/lies of progressive/liberal churches. I left the mainstream American church because of cognitive dissonance. ie: their supposed Pro-life/anti abortion stand along with their Pro war, genocidal/ anti-human stand.

I have since returned to my Anabaptist roots, which is my hometown Mennonite Church. This has grounded me and helped me get closer to the mind/body of Christ.

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